2012 is a good year for the woman-centric comedy. In fact, so many women-centric comedies have premiered on television that I don’t have time to watch them all. Three recent women-centric comedies I have been watching are ABC’s Don’t Trust the B—- in Apartment 23 and HBO’s Girls and Veep. I originally planned to write a post about all of these shows, but I find that I don’t have much to say so far about Don’t Trust the B—- and Veep. Don’t Trust the B—- is amusing and I really enjoy Krysten Ritter and James Van Der Beek, but I’m not sure I see the show keeping its high-energy momentum for very long. As for Veep, I’m too busy laughing – and forcing myself NOT to laugh so I don’t miss all of the funny lines – to have many deep thoughts about it yet, so I’ll probably save a Veep post for later in the season after I rewatch the episodes. I unreservedly love the show so far – I know it’s only two episodes in, but I’m optimistic.
Girls, on the other hand – I have a lot to say about Girls, even though I’m not sure the show deserves as much thought as I’m giving it, and I don’t know if I would even be talking about Girls if everyone else wasn’t talking about it. (Talking about something because everything else is talking about it…does that make me the opposite of a hipster?)
Girls debuted on April 15th after weeks and weeks of hype, positive press, and descriptions as an innovative show that would speak to a broad audience of twenty-something women. Immediately after the show debuted, it was criticized as being yet another New York City-based show that was all about white people – spoiled, privileged, whiny white people at that.
Defenders of Girls claimed that Lena Dunham was writing about her own personal experience, and therefore shouldn’t have to include people of color for the sake of diversity. Critics of Girls wanted to know how she could live in Brooklyn without meeting any people of color worth writing about. One such critic was a friend of mine who went to high school with Lena Dunham and wrote this essay: Monochrome. Then writer Lesley Arfin showed her ass by writing a racist tweet, and Jezebel essays about the annoying trend of hipster racism wrote themselves.
But the portrayal of a lily-white Brooklyn isn’t the only aspect of Girls that viewers are questioning. Many people are complaining that the characters themselves – Hannah (Lena Dunham), Marnie (Allison Williams), Jessa (Jemima Kirke), and Shoshana (Zosie Mamet) aren’t likable.
I’ve watched the first three episodes and I, for the most part, agree with this assessment. The only character that I find myself liking at all is Shoshana. She’s annoying and whiny, but in a way that makes me feel sorry for her rather than wanting her to get off of my screen. She’s also been the center of one of my favorite scenes on the show where she describes her three types of baggage in ascending order: her IBS, the fact that she doesn’t like her grandmother, and her virginity. She’s irritating, but I feel for her, and she reminds me a little of a Freaks and Geeks character.
The other three characters, however, I don’t like at all. This isn’t necessarily a problem. I don’t have to like a character in order to find a character interesting. A character can be a terrible person and still hold my interest (see Lannister, Cersei). But I also don’t find these characters interesting, and that’s a huge problem. I don’t care about Marnie and I find Jessa to be such a complete cliche that my mind turns off whenever she’s onscreen. Hannah is more interesting than the other two because she’s been given more time to develop, but for every scene that makes me empathize with Hannah (meeting with her gay ex-boyfriend Andrew Rannells and feeling humiliated) there’s another scene where I find her actions unsympathetic and completely unbelievable (making a joke about date rape with the person interviewing her for a job). And I don’t object to the joke about date rape because I don’t like rape jokes (though I don’t); I object to the scene because I did not believe that even someone as clueless as Hannah would make that particular joke in that particular moment. It seemed completely forced, like the writers wanted so much to create an AWKWARD MOMENT that they bludgeoned me in the head with it.
Now, some viewers have wondered whether the characters on Girls are supposed to be likable. That’s a good question and I’m not sure how to answer it. The marketing has certainly pushed the “by us, for us” angle, advertising Girls as a show that can and should appeal to a broad audience of women. On the other hand, Hannah has a line in the first episode that seems to counteract that expectation, when she says, “I think I’m the voice of my generation…or of a generation, somewhere.” Dunham is poking fun at self-absorbed writers, but also at the idea that any single person can claim to be the voice of a generation.
So maybe Girls isn’t meant to appeal to a wide audience of women. Maybe it’s meant to appeal only to white twenty-something women in hipster Greenpoint and Williamsburg. That’s fine – not every show can or should appeal to anyone. But in that case, why is the show called Girls? Why not Hannah and Her Friends, or something else that shows the limited appeal of the show and doesn’t almost rip off the title of a Woody Allen movie?
This, I think, is the main problem with Girls. It wants to appeal to a wide audience without actually trying to appeal to a wide audience. We’re supposed to relate to these girls because we’re supposed to, not because they do things that many people can relate to. We’re supposed to laugh at these characters’ selfishness while also feeling sorry for them – an extremely difficult task for any writer to pull off. I admire them for trying, and I think they sometimes succeed, but I often sense them trying SO HARD to be realistic that they often come off as unrealistic.
Of course, the other main problem with Girls – or at least the problem I have with it – is that it doesn’t make me laugh. A lot of the moments that are supposed to be awkward-funny are just plain awkward, particularly the opening of the second episode where Hannah has awful sex with her boyfriend as he enacts a rape fantasy of an eleven-year-old girl. It’s meant to be awkward and uncomfortable, but we’re also meant to be laugh at the boyfriend for being such an asshole. Well, the show succeeded with the awkward and uncomfortable part, but don’t try to tell me that scene was funny, because I honestly found it harder to watch than the rape scene from Fincher’s adaptation of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. I’m not exaggerating. Even though Hannah was engaging in consensual sex, the feeling of violation was so strong that I almost couldn’t watch the rest of the episode. I’m quite disturbed that the scene was meant to be funny, even if awkward-funny instead of ha-ha-funny.
Now, the show still has bits and pieces that I enjoy. I liked Shoshana and Hannah’s conversation about baggage. I really like Charlie, the sweet boyfriend who’s way too good for Marnie. I felt for Hannah when she was meeting with her ex-boyfriend. I like that the women look like real women with minimal makeup and clothing that people would actually buy instead of clothes from whatever designer is advertising a line of fashion. I’ll probably watch the rest of the season to see if it improves. But based on reactions I’ve seen from critics and fans, I strongly suspect that Girls will become one of Those Shows where not loving it means that “you just don’t get it,” and nothing will turn me off of a show more quickly than an obnoxious fanbase – especially a show where my feelings are already ambivalent.
I have to admit, I’ve been puzzled by the firestorm surround “Girls” and race. I agree, it’s problematic, but it’s hardly the first problematic show along those lines, and I seriously doubt it will be the last. So I’m curious how it ended up that THIS show was the one to put in the crosshairs.
I feel like a lot of people I’ve seen who criticize the racial aspects of the show are people who talk about this stuff all the time anyway. But there does seem to be more talk surrounding Girls than other shows, when the show is really a symptom, not a disease.
I think this show is getting more criticism than others for a few reasons.
1) The marketing for the show has been very focused on the idea that this is SOMETHING FOR WOMEN and something all women should be able to relate to. Except, not everyone, especially not all women or even all white women, can relate to the experiences of spoiled upper class twentysomething women in New York.
2) The show is also making a claim of realism and how realistically real it is, where shows like, say, How I Met Your Mother have a dose of fantasy or a “story” framework, and I think people are more willing to let racial issues slide on shows that aren’t as focused on realism.
3) It’s one thing to have another New York show that’s all about white people, but they live in Brooklyn. Like, come on, show. It’s really not hard to meet non-white people in Brooklyn.
Yeah I realized for me it’s really #2 since I did love love Bored to Death, but that show was so fanciful/farcical and mostly asked you to laugh AT it’s three central insular idiots. It did have fleeting poignant moments of real relatable humanity, but still a fairly cynical divorced from reality show.
I also think that show had a somewhat interesting modern take on masculinity, so I think I appreciated spending time with three Type B guys only one of whom is a true success and that might have mostly been because he was born on third, who are also far more preoccupied with their relationships with each other and women over their relationship to success in work.
Having said that I still think it’s suspect that Girls has gotten SO much shit for this, it definitely has the whiff of having to be twice as good for half the credit.
I feel like the more interesting question is the universally positive reviews for a show that isn’t (so far) that good and isn’t that funny, and how defensive many of the reviewers have been that nobody really likes it, because I think the real issue is that so many people who write/talk about TV even in the largely more egalitarian web, are privileged insular white people and Lena’s world IS their world, therefore deeply profound and “speshul”.
I feel like the more interesting question is the universally positive reviews for a show that isn’t (so far) that good and isn’t that funny, and how defensive many of the reviewers have been that nobody really likes it, because I think the real issue is that so many people who write/talk about TV even in the largely more egalitarian web, are privileged insular white people and Lena’s world IS their world, therefore deeply profound and “speshul”.
I’ve already seen comments along the lines of “a bad episode of this show is still better than x of what is on TV” and I just want to say, “NO. You are not allowed to say that four episodes in.”
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What do you mean by enacts a rape fantasy of an eleven year old girl? Do you mean he has a rape fantasy typical of an eleven year old girl or?
My phrasing was unclear and thanks for pointing it out so I can clarify. I meant that he was having sex with his girlfriend, but enacting a fantasy where he kidnaps and rapes an eleven-year-old girl. He’s not actually raping her, but he’s imagining it, and that disturbed me.
Yeah that is creepy. I never get how people can get off on the thought of sexual assault.
I have a real life example that helps illustrate my point but I don’t know if saying it in this discussion is acceptable (I don’t know if I’ve mentioned it but I have aspergers). If briefly mentioning ones sex life (including the fantasy of another) is never right regardless of context please stop reading here.
One time a nameless girl wanted to pretend that I was assaulting her. It was apparently her ultimate fantasy so I went along with it. It was the creepiest sex ever, not just because she was a really convincing actress but the whole idea just felt wrong.
So to this day I don’t get how someone could enjoy that, because it made me feel kind of wrong.
No, feel free to share personal examples, and thank you for sharing yours here.
I share your unsettled feelings about those types of scenarios. I know people who participate in those kind of fantasies are not necessarily rapists in real life, and I don’t want to judge people for play-acting, but watching it onscreen made me feel very uncomfortable.
So… I never ended up watching past the first episode of Girls. I have to admit, my take on all the articles, etc. (and yeah, I’ve been following it) is that the advertising got a lot of women in social justice circles excited that there was a show (a dramedy) about women coming out! And then, it came out and it was actually a strong premiere. But it was a strong, monochromatic and problematic premiere.
The reasons you described in an above comment are, essentially, intertwined and, I think, a fairly accurate distillation of people’s disappointments. When you compare a show like Girls to, say, How I Met Your Mother, one of the things to keep in mind is that the latter is a half hour comedy with unrealistic and fantastical elements. It’s 22 minutes where you laugh, hopefully. We don’t really need to relate to the characters to laugh at their antics – although, inevitably, people do relate to the elements of pathos introduced on-screen. But we’re not outright asked to identify with the characters, that just happens over time.
I can’t think of many comedies that are set in a privileged New York setting with all-white casts… Asking people to genuinely connect with and laugh at #firstworldproblems or #whitepeopleproblems would be difficult for most writers, or so I imagine.
8 episodes in i have found myself laughing out loud. I agree with the forced awkwardness observation, but also with the twice as good half the credit thought. and some of the lines. just randomly perfect. and thats for a 32 yr old white girl from sydney.